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Bought 4 different Rockchip players- none come with F/Ware!
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iixorbiusii
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:12 am   Post subject:  Bought 4 different Rockchip players- none come with F/Ware! Back to top 

Hi,

Not that I'm into modding, messing around with firmware etc etc but something's just occurred to me. Over the last 4 months, I have bought 4 Rockchip players, from 4 different outlets (before the obvious questions are asked 'why 4?', I am only keeping 1 for myself! Wink )

None have any firmware on their CD's Evil or Very Mad . Is this normal? They are all unbranded, so that could be why ( I realise Teclast offer f/w updates).
So even if I wanted to reload the original firmware back in, I wouldn't be able to !

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lattesurf
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:39 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

iixorbiusii , pretty much yeah. Usually unbranded players do not come with any firmware in it, you'll be lucky if it did. But then again, it would be a risk to take if you wanna theme and flash it in, considering it might not be compatible anyway. Kinda ironic since they actually provide the consumerupdate software in the cds to flash firmwares in.

Teclast & Meizu offers firmware updates, but upto a period of time i guess.

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DaremoS
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:00 pm   Post subject:  Re: Bought 4 different Rockchip players- none come with F/Wa Back to top 

iixorbiusii...

I don't want to give lessons to anybody here... let's said that I had lots of luck with my latest players...

First was M3 Music card from Meizu that have regularly new versions of firmware and enough tools for modding them.

Then was unbranded Teclast C260, in which I successfully installed legal Teclast firmware.
Teclast is releasing update of firmware in a regular way, and is available to be downloaded from their site. In this player I've installed many different FW completely skinned by others.

Few days ago was unbranded Onda VX858, in which I successfully installed legal Onda firmware.
Onda the same as Teclast is releasing update of firmware too, and is available to be downloaded from their site. This player is wearing a skin picked from Onda BBS.

To have this luck it's necessary to look for compatible players... to make some benchmark before buy.

This two rockchip devices (Teclast and Onda) are perfect for skinning: RKLogoEdit is a tool developed for modify the firmware in a secure way.
Having the backup Rockchip are extremely reliable for skinning and there is no need of a software to extract it.

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Buzzygirl
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:30 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

I didn't get firmware with my Rockchip player either... I just hope it doesn't die on me so that I would need to reload it...

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DaremoS
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:32 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

Buzzygirl wrote (View Post): › I didn't get firmware with my Rockchip player either... I just hope it doesn't die on me so that I would need to reload it...


Buzzygirl... you can ask the provider for corresponding firmware... your player is still under warranty... the supplier have to solve too that issue of the speakers always alive

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iixorbiusii
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:41 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

Thanks DaremoS - some good recommendations from you for people who want to mod their Rockchips. If possible, can you post photos of your players, to help identify unbranded Teclast and Onda players??? I might become interested in experimentation using one of those players as 'emergency' firmware exists for them Very Happy [btw I think Buzzygirls problem with the speaker always on was solved, by pressing the REC button for a few secs..?]

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knob
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:42 am   Post subject:  Re: Bought 4 different Rockchip players- none come with F/Wa Back to top 

Even if you get a supplied CD with firmware there is no guarantee it's gonna work. If you have a look round this site there have been many instances where the supplied CD had the WRONG firmware on it. Shocked

I still think software to extract YOUR own working firmware would be the best and safest solution, only problem is that it doesn't exist yet. Crying or Very sad

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DaremoS
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:52 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

iixorbiusii wrote (View Post): › Thanks DaremoS - some good recommendations from you for people who want to mod their Rockchips. If possible, can you post photos of your players, to help identify unbranded Teclast and Onda players??? I might become interested in experimentation using one of those players as 'emergency' firmware exists for them Very Happy [btw I think Buzzygirls problem with the speaker always on was solved, by pressing the REC button for a few secs..?]


Here is my little gallery of Rockchip devices:

Compatible Teclast C260 modded by someone available to download in Teclast BBS, as I have firmware backup there is no risk in load it or modify it via RKLogoEdit.
Screen is 2.4"

Compatible Onda VX858 modded by someone, available to download in Onda BBS. I have its original firmware picked from Onda site.
Screen is 2.8"
I haven't found corresponding *.lst file yet to modify it.
This Rockchip player have a Wolfson audio decoder, which brings the best sound I've heard in an MP4.

Beloved LDX LD-696 This player is still in its "blank screen" status as I Haven't found appropriate firmware.
Screen is 2.2"
The FW sent by the manufaturer LDX (Lidaxun) wasn't able to fix it!!! Very Happy
This player is identical to buzzygirl's,

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(Solution posted to Buzzygirl is not a solution indeed... it's just a short cut, this player disconnect speakers when one of two earphones are plugged).

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geostar
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:15 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

actually no because on players with 2 earphone sockets you have to use the rec key. think about it. how can they make a mechanical switch which works with both sockets?
if you needed the mechanical switch why would the rec key work?

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knob
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:38 pm   Post subject:  Re: Bought 4 different Rockchip players- none come with F/Wa Back to top 

On page 7 of the Rock Datasheet you can see that there is a special pin for
sensing the insertion of the jack plug, which means that it can be all controlled by firmware instructions to the Rockchip itself, so no need for any mechanical switches.

it's pin number 81 "HP_SENSE I Sense of jack insertion"

Problems in this area could mean an incorrect or corrupt firmware has been installed.

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DaremoS
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:34 pm   Post subject:  Re: Bought 4 different Rockchip players- none come with F/Wa Back to top 

In fact... there is no such switch, I've opened lots of time my player and I know it isn't a physical switch it's an electrical one... it's just the "HP_SENSE I Sense of jack insertion" which said Knob that is not working.

It can be solved by an expert electrician or... IMHO provider have to replace the malfunctioning player (Intimus Magnus thingy)

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snowfruit

Ireland
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:41 am   Post subject:  Re: Bought 4 different Rockchip players- none come with F/Wa Back to top 

DaremoS wrote (View Post): ›
Here is my little gallery of Rockchip devices:

Compatible Onda VX858 modded by someone, available to download in Onda BBS. I have its original firmware picked from Onda site.
Screen is 2.8"
I haven't found corresponding *.lst file yet to modify it.
This Rockchip player have a Wolfson audio decoder, which brings the best sound I've heard in an MP4.


@ DaremoS: Can you tell whether your player above is the same as the on I got recently?



i.e. will it take ONDA firmware as I can't figure out what firmware to use to change the them - in particular the start-up and closing screens as they look tacky as anything. I don't want to screw this up though as I want to take the player with me snowboarding in the new year.

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Th3_uN1Qu3
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:00 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

snowfruit, your player is an unbranded Onda, and it should be able to take Onda firmware.

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snowfruit

Ireland
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:56 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

Thanks for that.
Can you tell me what firmware version I should start with if my player identifies itself as Ver: 00.00.0000 Date: 2207-10-30 ?

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knob
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:49 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

snowfruit
I would advise you to wait before you try to "upgrade" to firmware. Member"dancemammal" is working on a firmware extractor for Rockchip players like the VX858.
He could be ready quite soon, then you could back up your firmware (which you know works) and theme that instead, maybe better to wait a little than risk bricking your player!

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